Conceptual paper : an online learning
...sinopsis perbualan maya 5 September 2006
atiejay: buat ranka dulu..mungkin buat conceptual paper
me: literature?
11:36 AM akak kasik contoh akak nye conceptual paper?
atiejay: depending on tajuk dan intipati..
me: nak gak blajar wat conceptual paper yg canggih...ada dlm kepala tapi tatau camne nak tulis
atiejay: conceptual paper macam proposal of somtheing, guna therires; empirical paper = data paper
11:37 AM me: empirical paper = data paper...ni tak paham
atiejay: empirical ni maksudnya kita dah ada data first hand collection; kita buat experiment and discribe the the experiments n results
11:38 AM me: maksudnye kita punya eksperimenlah kan
atiejay: haaah
me: ok...data paper?
atiejay: samalah tu...
ada dua jenis jer conceptual dan empirical
5 minutes
11:44 AM me: oh ok
atiejay: ekekekke
me: conceptual tu kalau yg org gather2 literature tu conceptual jugak ke bukan?
11:45 AM so apa nak bubuh...sama je?
atiejay: haah..betul tu basically discussing and arguing about the relevance of certain theories for certain applications
me: abstract
atiejay: dalam abastract cakap "This conceptual paper attempts to analyse etc."
11:46 AM me: dia punya subtitle tu tak brape nak clear...and then discuss method? result?
11:47 AM atiejay: Memula Introduction (aims/purposes/thesis statement); Lit Review; Discussion & Analysis; Conclusion
11:52 AM me: jap saya note down nih
atiejay: okie
11:53 AM me: thesis statement?
problem ke tuh?
atiejay: maksudnya dalam paper tu, outline atau layaout untuk paper
11:54 AM bukan problem tau..thesis tatement tu macam ni.."this paper aims to analyse the best xxxx for xxxapplications".
me: bile sebut outline atau layout tu saya bayangkan bukan tulis panjang2 lah kan...ala-ala cam diagram ke?
11:55 AM atiejay: bukan...jangan guna diagram, guna ayat
11:56 AM me: abis cam nak sama dgn aim/purpose laks?
ke memang sama?
atiejay: tak sama...
11:57 AM me: contoh kak
atiejay: ok..memula dalam abstract tu cakap dalam 2 ayat ttg bende yang cian nak tulis..in general..pastu..cakap this conceptual paper attempts to xxxx, pastu cakap because this is conceptual paper so akan guna secodnary/printed sources
11:58 AM pastu cakap based on the analysis and discussion, this paper recommends xxxxx..
ok..yang tadi tu abstract, ni untuk introduction pulak...
11:59 AM First paragpah elaborate on the first 2 sentences dalam abstract...pastu state sekali lagi aims/attampts of this paper with the purposes of/significance of the paper..
12:00 PM Second paragraph dalam intro mungkin buleh define terms2 (kalau ada) atau bincang sket methdology i.e. dari mana dapat secodndary sources
12:02 PM me: ok kak terus kan...saya menyalin nota dari cikgu maya nih
12:03 PM atiejay: Third para explain "This conceptual paper is divided into three sections. The one succeeding this introduction discusses the literature relevant to xxxxxx. The next section examines in detail the xxxxxx (analysis and discussion)....Lastly, conlclusion closes this conceptual paper.
12:04 PM Pastu, mungkin dalam second para in intro tu bulah cakap limitation paper ni i.e. because this is a conceptual paper, empirical data is not present to support xxxxx.
12:06 PM cian ok ker
12:07 PM me: ok
saya salin nanti tanya
12:08 PM atiejay: heheheh
5 minutes
12:13 PM me: memula akak tulis intro kan...1st para
pastu terus 2nd para 3rd para tu still intro ke?
tak kan..sebab tetiba je dah conclusion
12:14 PM atiejay: haah..maksudnya dalam satu section..
pastu terus ke lit, pastu discussion and analysis and conclusion
me: oh ok
atiejay: emmmm..bagus anak murid maya
12:15 PM me: nak literature lg?...ni kan memang review paper org...apa nak tulis dlm literature pulak?
saya rasa saya tend to buat discussion and analysis bile banding or ckp pasal paper author ttt
atiejay: dalam review tu cian tuliskan apa yang org lain dah tulis..dalam 3 atau 4 reserach based
12:16 PM me: anak murid maya makan maggie in cup...teringin sebab kat dlm airasia 6 hinggit
atiejay: dalam analysis tu baru compare antara satu research dan research yang lain
me: oook
12:18 PM sori kacau akak...satu lagi...biasa paper2 tu dlm literature dia pun dia quote bnyk previous res. jugak kan...so kita leh ke quote balik yg dia quote tu atau kita just amik analysis n conclusion dia je
12:19 PM atiejay: kita amek aper yang die rumuskan
me: ok tq sifu!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12:20 PM atiejay: ekekekeke
12:22 PM me: ok saya tutup ni...kalau apa2 buzz kat YM
bye
tq
atiejay: papai
atiejay: buat ranka dulu..mungkin buat conceptual paper
me: literature?
11:36 AM akak kasik contoh akak nye conceptual paper?
atiejay: depending on tajuk dan intipati..
me: nak gak blajar wat conceptual paper yg canggih...ada dlm kepala tapi tatau camne nak tulis
atiejay: conceptual paper macam proposal of somtheing, guna therires; empirical paper = data paper
11:37 AM me: empirical paper = data paper...ni tak paham
atiejay: empirical ni maksudnya kita dah ada data first hand collection; kita buat experiment and discribe the the experiments n results
11:38 AM me: maksudnye kita punya eksperimenlah kan
atiejay: haaah
me: ok...data paper?
atiejay: samalah tu...
ada dua jenis jer conceptual dan empirical
5 minutes
11:44 AM me: oh ok
atiejay: ekekekke
me: conceptual tu kalau yg org gather2 literature tu conceptual jugak ke bukan?
11:45 AM so apa nak bubuh...sama je?
atiejay: haah..betul tu basically discussing and arguing about the relevance of certain theories for certain applications
me: abstract
atiejay: dalam abastract cakap "This conceptual paper attempts to analyse etc."
11:46 AM me: dia punya subtitle tu tak brape nak clear...and then discuss method? result?
11:47 AM atiejay: Memula Introduction (aims/purposes/thesis statement); Lit Review; Discussion & Analysis; Conclusion
11:52 AM me: jap saya note down nih
atiejay: okie
11:53 AM me: thesis statement?
problem ke tuh?
atiejay: maksudnya dalam paper tu, outline atau layaout untuk paper
11:54 AM bukan problem tau..thesis tatement tu macam ni.."this paper aims to analyse the best xxxx for xxxapplications".
me: bile sebut outline atau layout tu saya bayangkan bukan tulis panjang2 lah kan...ala-ala cam diagram ke?
11:55 AM atiejay: bukan...jangan guna diagram, guna ayat
11:56 AM me: abis cam nak sama dgn aim/purpose laks?
ke memang sama?
atiejay: tak sama...
11:57 AM me: contoh kak
atiejay: ok..memula dalam abstract tu cakap dalam 2 ayat ttg bende yang cian nak tulis..in general..pastu..cakap this conceptual paper attempts to xxxx, pastu cakap because this is conceptual paper so akan guna secodnary/printed sources
11:58 AM pastu cakap based on the analysis and discussion, this paper recommends xxxxx..
ok..yang tadi tu abstract, ni untuk introduction pulak...
11:59 AM First paragpah elaborate on the first 2 sentences dalam abstract...pastu state sekali lagi aims/attampts of this paper with the purposes of/significance of the paper..
12:00 PM Second paragraph dalam intro mungkin buleh define terms2 (kalau ada) atau bincang sket methdology i.e. dari mana dapat secodndary sources
12:02 PM me: ok kak terus kan...saya menyalin nota dari cikgu maya nih
12:03 PM atiejay: Third para explain "This conceptual paper is divided into three sections. The one succeeding this introduction discusses the literature relevant to xxxxxx. The next section examines in detail the xxxxxx (analysis and discussion)....Lastly, conlclusion closes this conceptual paper.
12:04 PM Pastu, mungkin dalam second para in intro tu bulah cakap limitation paper ni i.e. because this is a conceptual paper, empirical data is not present to support xxxxx.
12:06 PM cian ok ker
12:07 PM me: ok
saya salin nanti tanya
12:08 PM atiejay: heheheh
5 minutes
12:13 PM me: memula akak tulis intro kan...1st para
pastu terus 2nd para 3rd para tu still intro ke?
tak kan..sebab tetiba je dah conclusion
12:14 PM atiejay: haah..maksudnya dalam satu section..
pastu terus ke lit, pastu discussion and analysis and conclusion
me: oh ok
atiejay: emmmm..bagus anak murid maya
12:15 PM me: nak literature lg?...ni kan memang review paper org...apa nak tulis dlm literature pulak?
saya rasa saya tend to buat discussion and analysis bile banding or ckp pasal paper author ttt
atiejay: dalam review tu cian tuliskan apa yang org lain dah tulis..dalam 3 atau 4 reserach based
12:16 PM me: anak murid maya makan maggie in cup...teringin sebab kat dlm airasia 6 hinggit
atiejay: dalam analysis tu baru compare antara satu research dan research yang lain
me: oook
12:18 PM sori kacau akak...satu lagi...biasa paper2 tu dlm literature dia pun dia quote bnyk previous res. jugak kan...so kita leh ke quote balik yg dia quote tu atau kita just amik analysis n conclusion dia je
12:19 PM atiejay: kita amek aper yang die rumuskan
me: ok tq sifu!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12:20 PM atiejay: ekekekeke
12:22 PM me: ok saya tutup ni...kalau apa2 buzz kat YM
bye
tq
atiejay: papai
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